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Poster: Spaced Date: Aug 15, 2006 7:40pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Look out...politics are comin' in!!!

"Jerry Garcia is just another dead doper" ~ Rush Limbaugh

Excerpt from Garcia interview:
Q. What do you think that the future of the human race depends upon?

Jerry Garcia: Getting off this lame fucking trip, this egocentric bullshit. There's entirely too many monkeys on this mudball and that's going to be a real problem. People have to get smart. I've always thought that the thing to do is something really chaotic and crazy like head off into space. That's something that would keep everyone real busy and would also distribute more bodies out there. Otherwise we end up staying here and killing each other and damaging the planet. I've gotten into scuba diving so I've developed a great affection for the ocean. I just don't want to see it get worse than it is. I'd like to think we could get smart enough sometime soon to make things better than they are instead of worse.

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Poster: Arbuthnot Date: Aug 15, 2006 8:52pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Look out...politics are comin' in!!!

Well, i wasn't going to contribute another word to this thread, but i have to chime in again and agree fully with 'high flow' and 'Earl B. Powell' when they say that there's plenty-o-news coming at us from other directions, and this forum is where we, who have a like and love and fascination for Jerry and Co., and the music they created, come together (so to speak) for the pleasure of our connected interests. Not to mention that it wouldn't surprise me at all if the various participants of this GD forum were very politically astute and concerned, since i've read many insightful and thoughtful posts here since signing on. And to all you ranters and you so-called 'political activists', i.e., 'billrealph,' etc., before you start name calling and raising up the spectre of us only being sheep ... know that you don't know a single one of us, and your verbal posturing is nothing more than that. It stinks of ego and self-congratulations. I'll leave it at that before i allow my words to reach an incendiary level of reply.

And to 'Spaced': thank you for the Garcia quote. I didn't know of it. As to the quote by Limbaugh ... that pill popper is about the dumbest creature to ever grace the airwaves. He is intellectually vacant, and contributes absolutely nothing other than wafts of hot air and verbal flatulence.

As my sister always used to tell me when we were but younguns, "those who think they know everything are annoying to those who really do."

So, i end on an amusing memory, even as streams of '82 Dead enter my head and bring a smile.

Oh yeah, yes, everything is 'political' as someone previously stated so obvious an observation. But that doesn't mean one has to politicize everything, and make a conflict out of what is best left to our general enjoyment.

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Poster: midnight sun Date: Aug 16, 2006 1:59am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Look out...politics are comin' in!!!

on the subject of political posts (and other posts)

dissent should not be confused with disloyalty

disagreement and appreciation are capable of co-existing in the same moment


This post was modified by midnight sun on 2006-08-16 08:59:39

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Poster: cosmicharlie Date: Aug 16, 2006 6:41am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Look out...politics are comin' in!!!

"disagreement and appreciation are capable of co-existing
in the same moment"
That sounds good in theory, in a free society in which free speech is encouraged.
Go to an "anti-war" demonstration in San Francisco where "free speech" is supposably practiced..as long as it's THEIR free speech.
In Berkeley, when Benjamin Netanyahu was going to give a talk, he was shouted down and not allowed to give his viewpoint. When intolerant people don't allow his free speech by disrupting and shouting him down, is that free speech or being rude?
In SF, I've witnessed gangs of Jack booted thugs in black garb, with faces covered, openly try to intimidate and attack peaceful demonstators when they try to practice "free speech" Shame on them!
( check out the video taped demo's here > www.protestwarrior.com )
To me, it's simple politness to let a person state their views or to free speech and THEN have a lively discussion.
Oh- oh-what I want to know, is are you kind?

While this is a GD forum, the thread is named
"Look out...politics are comin' in!!!" so maybe we can discuss such things like what really is free speech and the kind. (as long as we throw in some GD reference? -lol)
I swear on 4:20 and all good things otherwise, to stay with the muse and music. Deadheads come in all "isims" and religions. Music sooths the savage beast


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Poster: midnight sun Date: Aug 16, 2006 8:27pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Look out...politics are comin' in!!!

"That sounds good in theory, in a free society in which free speech is encouraged."

The GD Forum - "This must be heaven, or close enough to pretend..."

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Poster: cosmicharlie Date: Aug 17, 2006 7:40am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Look up, it's getting back to Good 'ol Dead

last nite i sang along to myself...

Please don't dominate the rap, Jack
If you got nothing new to say
If you please, don't back up the track
This train's got to run today...

...One way or another
This darkness got to give

The 5/15/70 version is the best I've heard so far. It's on Jerry Ballads vol-6
http://bt.etree.org/index.php?search=Ballads&cat=8

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Poster: cosmicharlie Date: Aug 17, 2006 11:35am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Look up, it's getting back to Good 'ol Dead

someday I'll have to check out the studio versions of the GD. The only studio I've heard so far is Mars Hotel
(other than some on the SMR CD set)

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Poster: high flow Date: Aug 17, 2006 12:01pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Look up, it's getting back to Good 'ol Dead

Workingman's Dead is my favorite. Country Dead...

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Poster: Spaced Date: Aug 17, 2006 11:33pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Look up, it's getting back to Good 'ol Dead

I like the 1st Garcia solo record and Blues for Allah best, and like many recorded performances. Throwing Stones, for example, has a Garcia solo that's really good and succinctly stated.

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Poster: midnight sun Date: Aug 18, 2006 4:56pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Look up, it's getting back to Good 'ol Dead

i hear ya Spaced, "In The Dark" is the studio album that i have listened to the most, not so much for song selection but for overall energy...GD said that this recording was done live without an audience (i think it was at Marin Veterans) , with a very small amount of after the fact (and more of the same) tweaking

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Poster: direwolf0701 Date: Aug 18, 2006 5:05pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Look up, it's getting back to Good 'ol Dead

i always liked Wake of the Flood - well engeenired and very crispy sounding - lots of great tunes very well played - one of my favs
of course, Workingmans is also a total classic of early dead.

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Poster: cream-puff-war Date: Aug 20, 2006 12:10pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Look up, it's getting back to Good 'ol Dead

I was looking through the bins at Ameoba the other day, wondering how to use up some credit...

almost bought ANTHEM OF THE SUN, in HD-CD.
Passed on AOXOMOXOA in HD-CD, since not the original spacey mix, then went over to the record section... yep, they had AOXO on vinyl - the original mix, but still I resisted... LIVE DEAD on HD-CD is tempting, but heard it so many times...
may go back for ANTHEM after all.

WORKINGMAN'S might be nice, in HD-CD, but I want to psych out, blast off and hear those two drummers DRUM!

Ever been busted for smilin' on a cloudy day?

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Poster: direwolf0701 Date: Aug 20, 2006 12:32pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Look up, it's getting back to Good 'ol Dead

if they have Without a Net and you don't - pick that up - great recording and great versions of the songs. Birdsong and Eyes are stellar

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Poster: Spaced Date: Aug 20, 2006 11:11pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Look up, it's getting back to Good 'ol Dead

I was at Amoeba on Haight today and they have used CDs of Without a Net (the one with the poster and picture CDs is cheaper) and closing of Winterland. Of all the Altheas I like the one on Without a Net best, though I saw some good Dick's Picks and the excellent Vault II show from LA.

Yes we are back to GD but we haven't forgotten about the fascist dog that hasn't been locally fed in years.

[Hey Now]
Lunatic Fringe
We know you're out there
But in these new dark ages
There will still be light

We can hear you coming
(We can hear you coming)
No you're not going to win this time
We can hear the footsteps
(We can hear the footsteps)
Way out along the walkway

But we're on guard this time
Against your final solution

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Poster: cream-puff-war Date: Aug 29, 2006 4:21am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Look up, it's getting back to Good 'ol Dead

Well you know he had to die

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Poster: high flow Date: Aug 17, 2006 10:58am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Look up, it's getting back to Good 'ol Dead

I dig the studio version(as he dodges rotten fruit being hurled by fellow heads)! It may not be the best, but it's a good studio track by GD standards. And Jerry's riff is so cool...

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Poster: cosmicharlie Date: Aug 16, 2006 7:32am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: smile...politics are goin out!!

no mas politico! (you're welcome)

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Poster: DEADBUCK Date: Aug 16, 2006 9:42am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: smile...politics are goin out!!

After all is said and done..... I was just drawing atention to a couple of oddball posts yesterday...(raising an eyebrow with a grin:)) But Im glad as always to have been part of a much needed in depth discussion of absolutely nothing! Now everybody slow down and take a deep breath....and check out a great show...say um....6/14/76. Hell of a listen!

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Poster: Spaced Date: Aug 16, 2006 2:24pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: smile...politics are goin out!!

>>6/14/76. Hell of a listen!>>

Not sure about the hell part, but I never realized the connection with Slipknot until I heard snippets prefigured in the first sets's Playing.

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Poster: high flow Date: Aug 16, 2006 2:31pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: smile...politics are goin out!!

the jam at the end of Crazy Fingers is really unique...play it loud, baby!

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Poster: direwolf0701 Date: Aug 16, 2006 3:23pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: smile...politics are goin out!!

dont y'all think we shoould start a new thread to get out of this "political one?"

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Poster: Spaced Date: Aug 16, 2006 3:40pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: smile...politics are goin out!!

Why not. I would say that the blame is mine, but I suspect it's something worse.

The tiger's in a trance but the bees aren't making honey. Here's how they want to sink the ship of fools:

"During World War II, the predecessor of the CIA, the Office of Strategic Services, described how the Germans used the Big Lie: "[They] never allow the public to cool off; never admit a fault or wrong; never concede that there may be some good in your enemy; never leave room for alternatives; never accept blame; concentrate on one enemy at a time and blame him for everything that goes wrong; people will believe a big lie sooner than a little one; and if you repeat it frequently enough people will sooner or later believe it."

Adios.

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Poster: direwolf0701 Date: Aug 16, 2006 4:14pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: smile...politics are goin out!!

"people will believe a big lie sooner than a little one; and if you repeat it frequently enough people will sooner or later believe it."

great quote - heard that one before but not in while. so true.
why would you say this is YOUR fault my friend? you and i went back and forth a bit in good fun (at least to me anyways). just tryin to get rid of the word "politics" from this thread.

You got some good quotes on command there spaced! good to read your posts.